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13 hours ago
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ziphius
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Nice photos Buford! Maybe I'll see you at orientation next weekend?
15 hours ago
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dsefcik
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Photos look great...I never did figure out how to keep airplanes out of night sky photos in ABDSP though. Keep up the good work..!
1 days ago
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tekewin
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Beautiful photos, Buford. Love the bighorn shots and the night shots. If only I trusted myself with an expensive camera, I would invest. I don't have a good track record.
1 days ago
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Britain
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Star trail pretty awesome. The other looks like you captured Jupiter crossing the Milkyway.
edited by Britain on 6/14/2019
1 days ago
Topic:
Carrizo Creek

Buford
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Unfortunately the Tamarisk seem hard to permanently remove. Same with the Sahara Mustard.
1 days ago
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Correct, got a new camera. Learning to take better photos and process them.

I know most of the ones I've posted and will post have some major flaws. It's a work in progress. More below:

Star trail attempt:


More sheep:


Sunset over the badlands a couple weeks ago:


Milky way attempt:
2 days ago
Topic:
Carrizo Creek

Britain
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Topic: Carrizo Creek
The Tamarisk was starting to grow back last year. More this year. I didnt get to the lower Carrizo gorge area this year to see if this area started to come back. I did notice last year in Jacumba Jims the stuff was chainsawed all the way almost to the rock fall. I didn't notice after the fall if any action was done.
2 days ago
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Descanso District

Buford
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That is a fun place to explore. Cool Lizard pic.

I hate ticks.
2 days ago
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Descanso District

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tekewin wrote:
Forest there looks really lush.
That is what made getting to those BM's difficult, the thick brush and then brushing off all the ticks. It is pretty out there but lots of bugs flying in your face. Sat night and Sunday morning were very windy out there.
2 days ago
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Those are great photos....did you get yourself a new camera?
2 days ago
Topic:
Carrizo Creek

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Tamarisk already coming back?? Wow. Upper Carrizo Creek at I-8 is a complete mess and Google Earth seems to indicate the Carrizo Gorge eradication has ground to a halt. Maybe another couple wind energy projects to fund the long term maintenance? Just kidding. Or, maybe an "Adopt a Tree to Kill Over And Over" might catch on...
2 days ago
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tommy750
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Nice pics Buford. Really like your spiny lizard pic.
2 days ago
Topic:
Descanso District

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Showed up to ride bikes on Saturday but missed out on all the exploring and the San Diego 100 race that passed a few feet from Daren's campsite on Friday night and made him miss a few winks of beauty sleep. Apparently he's run that race a few time. Winning time was 16:49:13 which is about what it take me to climb El Cajon once.

Somewhere near Morris Ranch Road

Fat Bikes by tomteske, on Flickr

Couple lizards from the week before when my wife and I walked that stretch of the PCT. Lots of flowers along the trail but summer is coming...

Horned Toad by tomteske, on Flickr

Lizard by tomteske, on Flickr
2 days ago
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Buford
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A couple more pictures from last weekend. It was windy Friday night, very nice Saturday night.

The family hanging out and waiting to be counted:


Pausing between pushups:


Sleeping on the hot rocks:


The spring had running water, but the flow was definitely less than a few years ago. The pipe is probably partially clogged.
3 days ago
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Descanso District

tekewin
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Topic: Descanso District
Forest there looks really lush. I had to look up where this was. Boy, the Cleveland National Forest is really big. Probably a nice break from the heat.
4 days ago
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Descanso District

ziphius
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ziphius
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Topic: Descanso District
Nice area, photos! You have a knack for finding old bathtubs. wink
4 days ago
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Descanso District

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Tom and I hung out in the mountains this past weekend, rode the bikes and did a little hiking.

The USFS makes some serious guzzlers out there. I bagged a couple of the more difficult BM's, Korth & Long....Cool
Plenty of ticks out there right now.









Oh Yeah....I sold the '81 Toyota and bought Tom's truck..!!


Korth BM




Long BM


View from Long BM


Old mining stuff










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4 days ago
Topic:
Carrizo Creek

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Carrizo is one my favorite places....thanks for posting. Getting hot out there now.
5 days ago
Topic:
Carrizo Creek

rockhopper
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The long history of peoples traveling along Carrizo creek trails and the geology of the entire area is so fantastic. Glad you got out before the heat really turned on.
5 days ago
Topic:
Carrizo Creek

Buford
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Nice. Another area to explore.
Summer heat is here this week.
9 days ago
Topic:
Carrizo Creek

Britain
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Topic: Carrizo Creek
Did a quick loop through Carrizo creek before the desert dragon returns. Was hot nevertheless around high 90's. The Tamarisk is coming back. Didn't see any water. Cats Claw was really thick in places.

Close up with Leckie in Background
Moved over to the other side roamed the badlands. The Lost BM is on this hill.
Hot but nice to get out.
13 days ago
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Pinyon Wash - Memorial Day Weekend

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Topic: Pinyon Wash - Memorial Day Weekend
ziphius wrote:
Could be (more likely) a raven's nest. Large-diameter stick cliff nest is consistent with other raven nests I've seen. Hard to tell how deep the bills on those birds are. Crows are extremely-rare east of Borrego Spr.


Thumbs Up What He Said i agree !!!
14 days ago
Topic:
Pinyon Wash - Memorial Day Weekend

ziphius
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Could be (more likely) a raven's nest. Large-diameter stick cliff nest is consistent with other raven nests I've seen. Hard to tell how deep the bills on those birds are. Crows are extremely-rare east of Borrego Spr.
edited by ziphius on 6/1/2019
15 days ago
Topic:
Pinyon Wash - Memorial Day Weekend

rockhopper
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Glad you got out to the Desert before the temps go up. That was the coolest May in memory. I know the spring winds have been strong as usual. Made for a nice extended Desert hiking season. Neat crows nest picture.
16 days ago
Topic:
Pinyon Wash - Memorial Day Weekend

tommy750
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Sounds like a nice weekend out. Know it gets windy out there, but that Nolina guzzler looks like it's built F5/Category 5 tough!
edited by tommy750 on 5/30/2019
16 days ago
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Pinyon Wash - Memorial Day Weekend

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Topic: Pinyon Wash - Memorial Day Weekend
tekewin wrote:
Big fan of Bighorn Canyon Peak. That guzzler photo is the one on the low end of Bighorn Canyon? I never found the register.
Yep..the register is right where you would think it should be but sorta hidden...we did not know if a register existed and looked a bit and gave up. Sat down to eat some lunch and saw the red can in some rocks right in front of us...good 'ol Maniacs....
16 days ago
Topic:
Pinyon Wash - Memorial Day Weekend

Buford
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Nice. Glad you are out and recovering. Bighorn is a register I have yet to go to.

I hit up the guzzler in the picture earlier this year when everything around it was in bloom.
17 days ago
Topic:
Pinyon Wash - Memorial Day Weekend

tekewin
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Big fan of Bighorn Canyon Peak. That guzzler photo is the one on the low end of Bighorn Canyon? I never found the register.

I thought the slopes on Sunset were steep and crumbly. The boulders higher up were better footing. Slow coming down from that one. I also remember it being dead silent, but I was there without the wind.
edited by tekewin on 5/30/2019
17 days ago
Topic:
Rabbit East Ridge Loop

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Topic: Rabbit East Ridge Loop
dsefcik wrote:
uhhh....count me out...nice work!...Applause
Not sure what motivates that kind of "day hike" but power to y'all..!!



Yeah, the route is pretty outrageous and I would not recommend it to anyone (except the many people faster than me). We weren't really going for an epic, but we greatly underestimated the descent. We really thought it was going to be 7 more hours, and of course getting caught in the dark made it worse. East ridge of Rabbit by itself is worthy and not as much of a stretch.
17 days ago
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Pinyon Wash - Memorial Day Weekend

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After tekewin's post my TR just seems silly...

Gary and I did a few "day hikes" around Pinyon Wash area, we hit up 4 guzzlers, Sunset Mtn and Peak 3567 (Bighorn Cyn Peak). I am just happy to be out in the desert again. Sunday was super, super windy up on Sunset.

Found a nice crow's nest with 3 young'lings in it.

Total Mylar balloons this trip - 2 (no pics, sorry)











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17 days ago
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Rabbit East Ridge Loop

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uhhh....count me out...nice work!...Applause
Not sure what motivates that kind of "day hike" but power to y'all..!!
17 days ago
Topic:
Rabbit East Ridge Loop

tekewin
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Topic: Rabbit East Ridge Loop
rockhopper wrote:
Good show man! Rabbit peak from the East is in the top 3 toughest hikes of my life! We did the same Barton canyon accent route as you did. I have an identical pick of photo #5 but decades earlier. We decended back down from the summit via Barton route. No hiking poles, no headlamps, hiked back under starlight. Your route was truely a heroic effort.
Cheers!



Thanks, Rockhopper. I won't forget it for sure. You must have had great starlight, there are so many boulders and washes in that canyon.
18 days ago
Topic:
Rabbit East Ridge Loop

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Good show man! Rabbit peak from the East is in the top 3 toughest hikes of my life! We did the same Barton canyon accent route as you did. I have an identical pick of photo #5 but decades earlier. We decended back down from the summit via Barton route. No hiking poles, no headlamps, hiked back under starlight. Your route was truely a heroic effort.
Cheers!
18 days ago
Topic:
Rabbit East Ridge Loop

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Nice way to end the season! I felt your pain and fatigue while reading your trip report. Great report, might have to skip that one 😀
19 days ago
Topic:
Rabbit East Ridge Loop

tekewin
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Topic: Rabbit East Ridge Loop
Buford wrote:
That is an interesting way to hit Rabbit plus the extra BMs. How did it look from Dawn to Alice?



I thought the east ridge was a fun route to Rabbit. Definitely a different experience. Alice BM is on a spur ridge a little south of Dawn but the same kind of terrain. It was generally open country and not hard to navigate. You could side hill between the two without difficulty, but we were so tired and behind schedule by then that we skipped Alice.
19 days ago
Topic:
Rabbit East Ridge Loop

Buford
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That is an interesting way to hit Rabbit plus the extra BMs. How did it look from Dawn to Alice?
19 days ago
Topic:
Rabbit East Ridge Loop

ziphius
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Quite the accomplishment and ordeal! Congratulations and thanks for sharing the story.
19 days ago
Topic:
Rabbit East Ridge Loop

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Wow epic. Congrats.
19 days ago
Topic:
Rabbit East Ridge Loop

tekewin
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Topic: Rabbit East Ridge Loop
I thought I was done in the desert until Fall, but my friend Henry pushed me to do Rabbit's East Ridge. From the TH on Fillmore Street, it's a tough 18-miler. But "Hardcore Henry" pushed for a longer loop descending a ridge near Villager to pick up 3 additional benchmarks:
  • Zosel BM
  • Crab BM
  • Dawn BM
That would add more than 3 miles and 1000' of gain to a Rabbit day hike. Oh, boy.

We marched out at 3:45 AM with headlamps and gibbous moonlight. The approach in Barton Canyon is braided with washes and large rocks that make it slow and difficult. Some cairns were placed with white rocks that stand out at night easing part of the ordeal. It took 3 hours to start up the ridge. We found a decent use trail to gain the ridge crest that ended in a class 2 section below a flat area. At around 3300', we began 2000' of sustained and steep class 2. It was a long, grueling section of ridge. Above that was a short, brushy, class 3 traverse around a prominent outcrop. Henry ended up going over the top of it, while I scrambled around below. The final section was crossing a couple of false summits, arriving at the broad summit plateau. We stopped at the boulders that make up the high point, but another boulder pile held the HPS register. The view east down to the Salton Sea was blocked by trees and I had to move closer to the western side to see the great views into Clark Valley. It took us 7 hours to reach the summit and we spent another 30 minutes resting. I knew we would be late, so I texted my wife (Verizon had bars on Rabbit).







Finishing up the easy part of the ridge




This is the short class 3 section






This rabbit was in the register box

After fresh coats of sunscreen, we dropped 800' from Rabbit to the Santa Rosa ridge toward Villager. Views on this ridge are phenomenal. To reach the descent ridge, we endured 3 miles of undulating bumps, almost reaching Villager Peak. After climbing to Rabbit, these bumps were unwelcome. The ridge was mostly open, unclogged with brush or other obstacles. A pleasant surprise. It wasn't as fast as a trail, but we made reasonable time moving down the gentle slope. I had loaded GPS waypoints making it easy to find Zosel benchmark, then Crab benchmark. Both had registers with few signatures, especially Crab with a register stuffed in a 35mm film canister. As the late afternoon daylight started to cast shadows, I wished the ridge was dropping faster. Half of the 5000' drop to Barton Canyon came at the end and we would end up doing it in the dark.








The mighty east ridge of Rabbit





The final benchmark we visited was Dawn. We found no register at Dawn, but knowing what was ahead, unpacked our headlamps and hurried down as fast as we could. The setting sun was partially blocked by the Santa Rosa ridge, leaving us in a long, lingering twilight. We had about 2 miles of the steepest part of ridge left when it got dark. Just after that, my headlamp fell off and broke open, spilling its 3 triple AAAs into the dirt. I was only able to find 2. No problem, I had a strong backup handheld flashlight and deployed it immediately. Meanwhile, Henry's phone had died trying to record our GPS track. Also, his rechargeable headlamp was toast from the early morning. No problem, he had a backup handheld light as well. So far, so good. We worked our way back, dipping in and out of 20' gullies and stumbling over boulders. With a couple miles left, my flashlight went dark. No problem, I always pack spare batteries. Score one for battery operated devices. With one mile to go, Henry's last rechargeable light went dim. We would have been seriously in trouble without light. We got back to the truck at 11:45 PM utterly pooped. It was a 13 hour descent from Rabbit and 20 hours truck to truck. Still technically a day hike, 20 hours from 3:45 AM to 11:45 PM! At the park and ride on the way back, Henry and I both took naps before driving the rest of the way home. Every time I do something like this, I swear never again, then I forget.


Final stats: 21.5 miles, 7628' gain, 20 hours.





Dawn just before dusk



22 days ago
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rockhopper
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Still here! Enjoying the long winter/spring rains and second flower blooms before the heat turns on. I've been doing hikes by the coast between the Wife's honey do's. Getting ready for San Jacinto. Daren: Nice bike. Looks like fun playing around with the air pressure in those tires to give the ultimate ride. :-)
22 days ago
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That is definitely a more desert appropriate color scheme for the bike.

A couple more from last weekend.



23 days ago
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Anyone still here?

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Nice bike Daren. Good to hear you're well enough to start getting back out in the wilderness.
25 days ago
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Before my back blowout, I bought a Fatbike to cruise around on....I bought the damn thing brand new and "fixed" it for the desert but never got to ride it until last weekend...looking forward to more bicycle rides in the desert.















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25 days ago
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tekewin
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Still here and checking in from time to time. One of my friends from LA might drag me to the desert over memorial day. I might regret whatever he has planned. Great macro photos, more camera envy.
edited by tekewin on 5/21/2019
25 days ago
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We're still here! smile Nice photos everyone! Good to see Daren up-and-about again.
26 days ago
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Was out in McCain Valley the last couple weekends...doc cleared me to walk and ride a bike.


Me looking up at the turbines. Photo Courtesy of Tom


Photo Courtesy of Tom

Mexican trail shrine






Same shrine but back in Jan when there was snow



Along the way



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26 days ago
Topic:
Bighorn Sheep Count 2019

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Reminder, anyone thinking of doing this should attend the orientation.

Some more pics from previous counts:









26 days ago
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Trudged around Carrizo creek and the badlands nearby Saturday. nice bee capture.
edited by Britain on 5/20/2019
edited by Britain on 5/20/2019
26 days ago
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Buford
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Anyone still here?

It is always desert season.

There are still some flowers around and places to explore. From last weekend:







5/3/2019
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Hike Suggestions?

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DHeuschele wrote:
For San G, I prefer the Fish Creek Route over the Vivian route and not only because the knees have gotten old with lots of miles. Fish creek may be more miles and take a bit longer but I find it to be easier and I like the route better. Not sure if the road to fish creek is open yet.

Water secret spot: the mine on a good snow year like this one is likely to have water (snow) into July or August. It is maybe 100 yards off trail.



Thanks! Road to Fish Creek is closed due to logging-guess we could have walked from the highway.

We ended up getting permits for end of May-Vivian Creek trail head with one overnight at Halfway camp. Not ideal but High Creek was full. Now the dilemma-Get to camp early and summit first day or the morning of the second day.
5/2/2019
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Hike Suggestions?

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Vivian creek is harder for sure but clears of snow pack earlier in the year. There is a really neat waterfall about half way up or so on the east side of the trail. Hiking up the back side ( north side) is more fun as DHeuschele says. There are some plane wrecks on the east side of the mountain as you near the summit. The north side climb is my favorite also.
5/2/2019
Topic:
The ABF 2020 ABDSP Photo Contest

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Outstanding photography. Way beyond my photo skills. I'm not worthy. ;-)
5/2/2019
Topic:
The ABF 2020 ABDSP Photo Contest

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Some nice photography.
5/2/2019
Topic:
Hike Suggestions?

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For San G, I prefer the Fish Creek Route over the Vivian route and not only because the knees have gotten old with lots of miles. Fish creek may be more miles and take a bit longer but I find it to be easier and I like the route better. Not sure if the road to fish creek is open yet.

Water secret spot: the mine on a good snow year like this one is likely to have water (snow) into July or August. It is maybe 100 yards off trail.
4/30/2019
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Hike Suggestions?

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rockhopper wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:
rockhopper wrote:
Don't forget Coyote peak next to Clark lake. Can be made into a fun day hike. Come up the east side and loop around to the north and back. Sections of the PCT near Granite mountain are fun. Also if you don't mind waiting till the snow melt and heading north a little bit, San Jacinto, San Gorgonio are some of my favorite day hikes.



Thanks. I want to do Coyote-that seems like an interesting route.

Have you done Gorgonio? I am planning that for the next couple of months.



Yes, multiple times. From the South and the North hiking trail heads. Always wanted to do the West route up 10,000 ft ridge and on to the summit. Camped at the summit once. Lots of rock wind shelters. I would suggest the North side first. Just more interesting than the South side uphill grind. It is the highest summit around. Great views on a clear day. Best after a East wind event. Have fun!



Thanks. I am thinking from Vivian Creek. I'd like to do a day hike but the wife doesn't do good at altitude-thinking of staying one night halfway, summit ting and going back next day.
4/30/2019
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Hike Suggestions?

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Rocko1 wrote:
rockhopper wrote:
Don't forget Coyote peak next to Clark lake. Can be made into a fun day hike. Come up the east side and loop around to the north and back. Sections of the PCT near Granite mountain are fun. Also if you don't mind waiting till the snow melt and heading north a little bit, San Jacinto, San Gorgonio are some of my favorite day hikes.



Thanks. I want to do Coyote-that seems like an interesting route.

Have you done Gorgonio? I am planning that for the next couple of months.



Yes, multiple times. From the South and the North hiking trail heads. Always wanted to do the West route up 10,000 ft ridge and on to the summit. Camped at the summit once. Lots of rock wind shelters. I would suggest the North side first. Just more interesting than the South side uphill grind. It is the highest summit around. Great views on a clear day. Best after a East wind event. Have fun!
4/30/2019
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Hike Suggestions?

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rockhopper wrote:
Don't forget Coyote peak next to Clark lake. Can be made into a fun day hike. Come up the east side and loop around to the north and back. Sections of the PCT near Granite mountain are fun. Also if you don't mind waiting till the snow melt and heading north a little bit, San Jacinto, San Gorgonio are some of my favorite day hikes.



Thanks. I want to do Coyote-that seems like an interesting route.

Have you done Gorgonio? I am planning that for the next couple of months.
4/30/2019
Topic:
Hike Suggestions?

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Topic: Hike Suggestions?
Don't forget Coyote peak next to Clark lake. Can be made into a fun day hike. Come up the east side and loop around to the north and back. Sections of the PCT near Granite mountain are fun. Also if you don't mind waiting till the snow melt and heading north a little bit, San Jacinto, San Gorgonio are some of my favorite day hikes.
4/29/2019
Topic:
Hike Suggestions?

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Buford wrote:
All of the suggestions are very good. Many are much tougher then Granite, Villager, or Whale.

Bring a headlamp for some. Be careful of the reports, the type of people who dayhike these are often faster than normal.


Also add:
Palm Mesa (via Henderson Canyon, BPC, or Los Coyotes)
Rosa and Pyramid(separately or can be combined with Mile High, Villager)

Sawtooth and Red Top can be done in <12 hours from Indian Canyon Big Grin



Thanks. I won't take any of these hikes lightly.
4/29/2019
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Hike Suggestions?

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Topic: Hike Suggestions?
tommy750 wrote:
Isn't the legit way up Red Top via McCain Valley and Pepperwood Canyon?? smile
Only if you are Bob Burd and combine that same day hike trip with bagging a couple of other nearby peaks.
4/29/2019
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Hike Suggestions?

tommy750
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Isn't the legit way up Red Top via McCain Valley and Pepperwood Canyon?? smile
4/28/2019
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Hike Suggestions?

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dsefcik wrote:
Buford wrote:
Sawtooth and Red Top can be done in <12 hours from Indian Canyon Big Grin

Technically it's Indian "Valley"......Indian "Canyon" is in the north area of the park near Cougar/Sheep Canyon & Collins Valley....just in case folks are looking at a map for it.


slap forehead I was just looking at the topo map for Collins Valley when I typed that.

It would be a bit longer to walk than a day hike from Indian Canyon.
4/27/2019
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dsefcik
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Buford wrote:
Sawtooth and Red Top can be done in <12 hours from Indian Canyon Big Grin

Technically it's Indian "Valley"......Indian "Canyon" is in the north area of the park near Cougar/Sheep Canyon & Collins Valley....just in case folks are looking at a map for it.
4/26/2019
Topic:
The ABF 2020 ABDSP Photo Contest

Buford
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Here are last years winners.

https://flic.kr/s/aHsmzXErx4

My favorites are the smoke tree and the rattler with the mosquito.

Most are really good. Others dunno
4/26/2019
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Hike Suggestions?

Buford
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All of the suggestions are very good. Many are much tougher then Granite, Villager, or Whale.

Bring a headlamp for some. Be careful of the reports, the type of people who dayhike these are often faster than normal.


Also add:
Palm Mesa (via Henderson Canyon, BPC, or Los Coyotes)
Rosa and Pyramid(separately or can be combined with Mile High, Villager)

Sawtooth and Red Top can be done in <12 hours from Indian Canyon Big Grin
4/26/2019
Topic:
The ABF 2020 ABDSP Photo Contest

dsefcik
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Topic: The ABF 2020 ABDSP Photo Contest
Anza-Borrego Foundation is proud to partner with Borrego Art Institute and Anza-Borrego Desert State Park to present the 2019 Anza- Borrego Desert Photo Contest. The contest is meant to encourage desert lovers and photography enthusiasts to capture their favorite views, moments and adventures in Anza-Borrego Desert State Park. Since the theme of the contest is the unique and natural beauty of Anza-Borrego Desert State Park, all photographs must be taken within the Park boundaries. Ribbons will be awarded to First, Second, and Third place winners, as well as Best of Show. All place winners also receive a gift membership to Anza-Borrego Foundation, good for one year.

https://theabf.org/events-calendar/photocontest/
4/26/2019
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Rocko1
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These are all great ideas. Thanks everybody.
4/26/2019
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tekewin wrote:
Red Top / Sawtooth Highpoint from North Indian Canyon. 12+ hours.

San Ysidro East.

Mile High Mountain.

Another vote for Indianhead.

Square Top. Not really that long, but you'll need to drag a rope up for the summit block.
What He Said great suggestions....Thumbs Up
4/26/2019
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Hike Suggestions?

tekewin
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Red Top / Sawtooth Highpoint from North Indian Canyon. 12+ hours.

San Ysidro East.

Mile High Mountain.

Another vote for Indianhead.

Square Top. Not really that long, but you'll need to drag a rope up for the summit block.
4/26/2019
Topic:
Hot, Cool, and High Benchmarks

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rockhopper wrote:
Nice hike over the desert patina. Did you see any old faint trails heading west towards the mountain canyons?



There was a partial faint trail on the plateau between Hot and Cool. It continued past Hot where I dropped back into Big Wash. On the other side of Cool was another faint trail heading further up canyon, but I lost it in a half mile. There was nothing as I headed up to High BM.
4/26/2019
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Sacatone to Goat Canyon

http://www.sefcik.com/2010/04/sacatone-overlook-to-goat-canyon-hike.html

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4/26/2019
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Whale Peak via Bisnaga

http://www.sefcik.com/2011/10/whale-peak-via-bisnaga-wash-abdsp.html

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edited by dsefcik on 4/26/2019
4/25/2019
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Hike Suggestions?

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My favorite: Domelands and the associated slot canyon. I think I have now done this almost as often as borrego palm canyon.

In addition to 6582/Dawn’s, Indian head peak up borrego palm canyon and down the scramble, cougar canyon, sheep canyon, rabbit, maiddnhair Falls (looks so out of place).

Day challenge: Trans Anza traverse is a day. I think I posted route info from my trip 2 years ago.

Maybe hard for a day, Indian canyon to borrego palm canyon traverse. When I did this last (3 years ago) we got whooped at the confluence (0.5 miles/hr for over 1 mile). Good thing I planned it for 2 days.

I did Coyote canyon toward Anza this year and did not like it as much as the ones listed above.
4/25/2019
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Buford wrote:
caltopo.com Find an interesting starting point, destination, and end point and go.


Schad’s book

https://peakbagger.com/list.aspx?lid=5058

6582

All depend on time of year and how much you want to suffer.


Ha! Thanks Buford. 6582 is piquing my interest. I always forget about the peakbagger site.

Thanks.
4/25/2019
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Hike Suggestions?

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caltopo.com Find an interesting starting point, destination, and end point and go.


Schad’s book

https://peakbagger.com/list.aspx?lid=5058

6582

All depend on time of year and how much you want to suffer.
4/25/2019
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Hike Suggestions?

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Does anyone have any suggestions for any longer day hikes? I really enjoyed Granite, Villager as well as Whale Peak and the Goat Trestle.
4/24/2019
Topic:
Villager Peak

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Scooter wrote:
A good way to do Rabbit is spend the night on Villager and leave early in the morning for Rabbit. After you get back from Rabbit hike out to your car. The views from Villager are much better than Rabbit since it has A lot of trees and brush. We also like it leave water bottles on the trail on the way up to Villager so you don't have to carry all the water up.



I will probably attempt this at some point. I wanted to cache water on the way up but that kind of got forgotten as I was in the 'zone' grinding up hill. I consumed 5.5 liters but could have drank another liter. That's a 26lb water carry for an overnight without caching.
4/24/2019
Topic:
Villager Peak

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Buford wrote:
Nice. Definitely a lot of elevation gain and loss with some good views.

Those rock wind breaks sure are multiplying rapidly over the last couple years.


The trail doesn't hold up to Schad's original description that said only a few people bag this peak a year. Hiking apps, the internet, his books I am sure have all led to it's increased popularity. The breaks are not LNT for sure but I can't say that in high winds if I was up there I wouldn't try to use them to shield my tent.
4/24/2019
Topic:
Villager Peak

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Daren pretty much sums it up. Fantastic views of every where. I really am in awe of the steep escarpments dropping off down to Clark dry lake.
One of my top favorite day hikes. Thanks for posting.
4/24/2019
Topic:
Hot, Cool, and High Benchmarks

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Nice hike over the desert patina. Did you see any old faint trails heading west towards the mountain canyons?
4/24/2019
Topic:
Martinez Peak and Little Pinyon Flat

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Rocko1
No problems leaving the car for multiple days at the CST trail head. Only nice people go hiking right?
4/24/2019
Topic:
Villager Peak

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A good way to do Rabbit is spend the night on Villager and leave early in the morning for Rabbit. After you get back from Rabbit hike out to your car. The views from Villager are much better than Rabbit since it has A lot of trees and brush. We also like it leave water bottles on the trail on the way up to Villager so you don't have to carry all the water up.
4/24/2019
Topic:
Villager Peak

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dsefcik wrote:
I have said in previous posts, the top of the 'Rosa's are one of my favorites, the views of the Salton Sea, Cochella Valley at night and all of ABDSP are just amazing. I fully recommend an overnight stay when possible. The sunrise over the Salton Sea is just gorgeous from that altitude. Nice TR, thanks for sharing.
4/24/2019
Topic:
Hot, Cool, and High Benchmarks

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dsefcik wrote:
Nice Balloon collection...I love the benchmark names, a couple favorites are still Shake and Quake in Earthquake valley. Shake gets little visitation.



Yeah, I love the names, too. It would have been great to get Low with High, but Low was too far away. I'll look for Shake in the fall.
4/24/2019
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Hot, Cool, and High Benchmarks

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Nice Balloon collection...I love the benchmark names, a couple favorites are still Shake and Quake in Earthquake valley. Shake gets little visitation.
4/24/2019
Topic:
Villager Peak

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I have said in previous posts, the top of the 'Rosa's are one of my favorites, the views of the Salton Sea, Cochella Valley at night and all of ABDSP are just amazing. I fully recommend an overnight stay when possible. The sunrise over the Salton Sea is just gorgeous from that altitude. Nice TR, thanks for sharing.
4/23/2019
Topic:
Martinez Peak and Little Pinyon Flat

Buford
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Cool report. Too many places to explore and not enough time. I need to make it out that way at some point.
4/23/2019
Topic:
Hot, Cool, and High Benchmarks

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Cool. I think the Borrego Benchmarks Club has something to do with the San Diego Peaks Club or a predecessor to the Monday Maniacs.
4/23/2019
Topic:
Villager Peak

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Nice. Definitely a lot of elevation gain and loss with some good views.

Those rock wind breaks sure are multiplying rapidly over the last couple years.
4/23/2019
Topic:
Hot, Cool, and High Benchmarks

Rocko1
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Nice report. Love seeing the older summit logs.
4/23/2019
Topic:
Hot, Cool, and High Benchmarks

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My last hurrah in the desert before summer. Benchmark hunting west of Salton Sea. I was looking for two benchmarks above Big Wash (Hot and Cool), and another one somewhere in the hills below Travelers Peak (High). I planned a route from Big Wash off highway 86. I made a few mistakes that made for a longer day and I may have crossed part of a closed area. There were some signs along the jeep trail in Big Wash but I've seen those on other trails referring to a deep sand area, etc. so I didn't pay attention until the way out. More on that later.


The road into Big Wash started off in poor condition, then got better. High clearance and 4x4 recommended. I parked a few miles in then headed for the north ridge of Big Wash where Hot BM was placed.








Looking back down Big Wash from Hot

Next, I headed along the top of the ridge toward Cool, two plus miles away. Moving along the top of the ridge was easy and open and looked a lot better than navigating the wash below. The ridge was broken in one place before Cool where erosion had created a 100' drop. It wasn't too hard to get down and back up the other side. A little more ridge walking got me to Cool where another tiny register lived. The first page of the register was a pre-printed form placed by the Borrego Benchmark Club. I don't think I've seen one of these before, or didn't notice. I took a break at Cool and enjoyed the views of harsh terrain all around. The east side of Travelers Peak looked interesting.










High benchmark was less than two miles away (as the crow flies) and 1000' above Cool somewhere in the cluster of hills to the west. As I reached the right elevation, I made my second big mistake. Instead of tracking to the exact location in my GPS, I hiked up to a nearby high point and found nothing. I checked the GPS, then headed to the next nearby high point, then thee next through the intervening gullies. I ended up wasting about 30 minutes visiting every high point and ridge line in frustration. High was near a low point on one of the ridges and I finally found it by strictly going to the GPS coordinates. It was there on a flat rock with a downed wooden pole.The view back to the Salton Sea was now less hazy and quite impressive. When I started back, I took a long gully I had avoided on the way up. It had accumulated some boulders that actually made descending easier. I thought about dropping all the way into Big Wash to the return trip, but it looked more difficult than just staying above it.I picked up three mylar balloons during my trip.







Ridge break heading back



Back to the sign, it referred to a State Park order that I could not find on the Anza-Borrego web site, the CA state park web site, and even Google couldn't find it. The order closed a section of park in 2013 above Grave Wash and into parts of Big Wash. I think it was part of the Freeman land grant, but Internet searches returned vague info. So, the restriction might still be in place, not sure.



4/23/2019
Topic:
Martinez Peak and Little Pinyon Flat

tekewin
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Martinez looks like a fun day hike. I appreciate the high def photos. Thanks for the report.
4/23/2019
Topic:
Indianhead mountain

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Indianhead is an awesome hike. I did Schad's route back in 2013. I remember having to pick my way around large boulders near the top and burned trees. The views are so sweet, though. If I ever go again, I'd try the south gully.

FYI, I host my photos free on blogspot.com.
4/23/2019
Topic:
Villager Peak

tekewin
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I love the view on that ridge into Clark Valley just below Villager. Great trip!
4/23/2019
Topic:
Martinez Peak and Little Pinyon Flat

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rockhopper wrote:
Rocko1
This was my Brothers 1st time down the Cactus Spring Trail so we made it as far as the pass going down to the Agua Alta spring, the start of the Martinez mountain climb. I think this is like the 6th time I have been out here. I went up the CST up Martinez canyon to Jack Millers rock house from Hwy 86 and down the CST from Hwy 74 to the Jack Miller rock house. This trip was more about exploring areas I passed thru before. We saw a few day hikers day one. Nobody on day two, but we could faintly hear the Coachella concert ( only the bass) ha!
edited by rockhopper on 4/22/2019



Nice! Can you leave a car at the trail head multiple days?
4/23/2019
Topic:
Villager Peak

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I decided to tackle Villager Peak a couple of Sundays ago. It had been intriguing me ever since I read about it in Schad’s Afoot and Afield years ago. I figured I better do it before it gets too hot. I told my wife how hard this would be and how miserable she would feel yet somehow she was still game. Left my house at 4am and was on the trail by 6:20am a bit of a late start for me. Was about 55F. Well, they were not lying about the rocky trail-first mile is sandy wash, then the climbing starts. Loose broken rock over most of the trail with a very occasional short flat section. After a few expletives from the wife made it to the top by 11:30am.


There is a wind break and rock fireplace up top-plenty of room for multiple tents, Pinyons Pines and shade. It’s quite nice. More pleasant that Whale Peak in my opinion. At the top it was 70F with a slight breeze. Views are really incredible. I would have liked to spend more time up there but I wasn’t sure how long it would take to get back. Drank some coffee, ate some bars and decided to head back. Made it back the car at 4:30pm or so. Saw a small group of people on the way up 1.5 miles in-breaking camp and at the top we saw a couple who were just coming back from Rabbit Peak-they had spent the night. Didn’t see anyone else. Was 92F at the car. I had some left in the tank but my wife was at her limit. That’s the hardest hike she has done-San Jacinto was the toughest. Glad we did it. I will want to tackle Rabbit someday with a multi-day trip. Not looking forward to the water carry on that. Took 9L between us both-used all of it.
Looking back towards the car.

Harvestmen are strange creatures. These were all over on the lower elevations.

Still decent amount of flowers up the trail.

Small wind break

Another

View of the dry lake bed

At the peak. Wind break and fireplace.

Trip Specs. 14.32 miles, 5,017ft gain.

Couple of videos of the hike
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFetNbtsJPk&feature=youtu.be

One of the rare flat sections. This was heaven on the feet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQyty7iYrmU&feature=youtu.be

edited by Rocko1 on 4/24/2019
4/22/2019
Topic:
Martinez Peak and Little Pinyon Flat

tommy750
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rockhopper wrote:
tommy750 wrote:
dsefcik wrote:
rockhopper wrote:
The main entrance to Toro peak off the Hwy 74 was locked. :-o
That is interesting....hummm...



Still closed due to winter storms: https://www.fs.usda.gov/recarea/sbnf/recarea/?recid=81714[/quote]


Have you seen the new gate? It is truly Massive and closer to the Hwy than the old one. The old gate has never been closed in close to 40 years I have been going up there even in the Winter. We thought it was closed due to the Coachella concerts. Thanks for the link. You always chime in with great info. Thanks!



This site has indicated the road was closed multiple times in the past few years. But, I've never actually drove out there and checked...
4/22/2019
Topic:
Martinez Peak and Little Pinyon Flat

rockhopper
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tommy750 wrote:
dsefcik wrote:
rockhopper wrote:
The main entrance to Toro peak off the Hwy 74 was locked. :-o
That is interesting....hummm...



Still closed due to winter storms: https://www.fs.usda.gov/recarea/sbnf/recarea/?recid=81714[/quote]


Have you seen the new gate? It is truly Massive and closer to the Hwy than the old one. The old gate has never been closed in close to 40 years I have been going up there even in the Winter. We thought it was closed due to the Coachella concerts. Thanks for the link. You always chime in with great info. Thanks!
4/22/2019
Topic:
Martinez Peak and Little Pinyon Flat

rockhopper
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Rocko1
This was my Brothers 1st time down the Cactus Spring Trail so we made it as far as the pass going down to the Agua Alta spring, the start of the Martinez mountain climb. I think this is like the 6th time I have been out here. I went up the CST up Martinez canyon to Jack Millers rock house from Hwy 86 and down the CST from Hwy 74 to the Jack Miller rock house. This trip was more about exploring areas I passed thru before. We saw a few day hikers day one. Nobody on day two, but we could faintly hear the Coachella concert ( only the bass) ha!
edited by rockhopper on 4/22/2019
4/22/2019
Topic:
Martinez Peak and Little Pinyon Flat

Rocko1
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Awesome trip report. How far down the CST did you make it? See anyone else out there?




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